[Trainers] Question about discussion session checkout requirement

Christina Koch koch.christinal at gmail.com
Sun Nov 19 16:56:10 CST 2017


Hi Amy,

Your last email has it exactly correct.  :)

Christina

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Amy E. Hodge <amyhodge at stanford.edu> wrote:

> Sorry to belabor this, but now that I’m typing an email to them….
>
>
>
> So, are the instructor checkout spots at http://pad.software-carpentry.
> org/instructor-discussion ONLY for the discussion requirement and NOT for
> the teaching demo requirement, should be fulfilled at one of the sessions
> here?: http://pad.software-carpentry.org/teaching-demos . This would
> suddenly make a lot more sense to me.
>
>
>
> Clearly, I’ve been very confused over this.
>
>
>
> ~ Amy
>
>
>
> Amy E. Hodge, PhD
> *Science Data Librarian*
>
> amyhodge at stanford.edu
>
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>
> *From: *Trainers <trainers-bounces at lists.software-carpentry.org> on
> behalf of "Amy E. Hodge" <amyhodge at stanford.edu>
> *Date: *Friday, November 17, 2017 at 2:40 PM
> *To: *Christina Koch <koch.christinal at gmail.com>
>
> *Cc: *"trainers at lists.software-carpentry.org" <trainers at lists.software-
> carpentry.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Trainers] Question about discussion session checkout
> requirement
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> ~ Amy
>
>
>
> Amy E. Hodge, PhD
> *Science Data Librarian*
>
> amyhodge at stanford.edu
>
> 650.556.5194 <(650)%20556-5194>
>
>  orcid.org/0000-0002-5902-3077
>
>
>
> Data Management Services
> Branner Earth Sciences Library, 212 Mitchell
> 397 Panama Mall
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=397+Panama+Mall&entry=gmail&source=g>; MC 2211
> Stanford University
> Stanford, CA 94305
>
>
>
> *From: *Christina Koch <koch.christinal at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, November 17, 2017 at 2:34 PM
> *To: *"Amy E. Hodge" <amyhodge at stanford.edu>
> *Cc: *Rayna M Harris <rayna.harris at utexas.edu>, "trainers at lists.software-
> carpentry.org" <trainers at lists.software-carpentry.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Trainers] Question about discussion session checkout
> requirement
>
>
>
> Hi Amy,
>
>
>
> When they attend the discussion, they should sign up under the checkout
> slots, because it *is* part of the three step checkout process.
>
>
>
> Christina
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Amy E. Hodge <amyhodge at stanford.edu>
> wrote:
>
> One point I still want to clarify – since they need to sign up to attend a
> discussion, but aren’t doing training checkout or an official pre or
> post-workshop brief, what slots should they take?
>
>
>
> ~ Amy
>
>
>
> Amy E. Hodge, PhD
> *Science Data Librarian*
>
> amyhodge at stanford.edu
>
> 650.556.5194 <(650)%20556-5194>
>
>  orcid.org/0000-0002-5902-3077
>
>
>
> Data Management Services
> Branner Earth Sciences Library, 212 Mitchell
> 397 Panama Mall
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=397+Panama+Mall&entry=gmail&source=g>; MC 2211
> Stanford University
> Stanford, CA 94305
>
>
>
> *From: *Trainers <trainers-bounces at lists.software-carpentry.org> on
> behalf of "Amy E. Hodge" <amyhodge at stanford.edu>
> *Date: *Friday, November 17, 2017 at 2:09 PM
> *To: *Rayna M Harris <rayna.harris at utexas.edu>
>
>
> *Cc: *"trainers at lists.software-carpentry.org" <trainers at lists.software-
> carpentry.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Trainers] Question about discussion session checkout
> requirement
>
>
>
> Thanks, Rayna and Christina,
>
>
>
> I knew these were separate tasks, but some confusion was created here
> because the discussion sessions (http://pad.software-
> carpentry.org/instructor-discussion) now have slots for instructor
> checkout as well. I’ll be sure to make certain people are aware that there
> are additional sessions that are just for checkout, though they will be
> dismayed that everything in our time zone are full. Many of them were very
> eager to check out in the next few weeks.
>
>
>
> This is compounded a bit because they are not supposed to checkout with
> their instructor, and Karen and I are two of only a handful of people in
> this time zone.
>
>
>
> Thanks again to you both,
>
>
>
> ~ Amy
>
>
>
> Amy E. Hodge, PhD
> *Science Data Librarian*
>
> amyhodge at stanford.edu
>
> 650.556.5194 <(650)%20556-5194>
>
>  orcid.org/0000-0002-5902-3077
>
>
>
> Data Management Services
> Branner Earth Sciences Library, 212 Mitchell
> 397 Panama Mall
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=397+Panama+Mall&entry=gmail&source=g>; MC 2211
> Stanford University
> Stanford, CA 94305
>
>
>
> *From: *Rayna M Harris <rayna.harris at utexas.edu>
> *Date: *Friday, November 17, 2017 at 1:59 PM
> *To: *"Amy E. Hodge" <amyhodge at stanford.edu>
> *Cc: *"trainers at lists.software-carpentry.org" <trainers at lists.software-
> carpentry.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Trainers] Question about discussion session checkout
> requirement
>
>
>
> Hi Amy,
>
>
>
> The discussion sessions and the demo sessions are two separate activities.
>
>
>
> Demo etherpad: http://pad.software-carpentry.org/teaching-demos
>
> Discussion etherpad: http://pad.software-carpentry.
> org/instructor-discussion
>
>
>
> For the demo, they must prepare to teach for 5 minutes from on of our
> lessons.
>
> For the discussion, they show up and listen to certified instructors talk
> about past workshops or ask questions about upcoming workshops.
>
>
>
> The cap on the number of attendees is very important. Three years of
> experience conducting online discussion sessions has led the mentoring
> committee to cap the number of participants to give everyone a chance to
> contribute. Maybe someone from the mentoring committee can speak up as to
> what to do if there really aren't any open sessions that fit the trainees
> schedule.
>
>
>
> Does that help?
>
>
>
> Rayna
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Amy E. Hodge <amyhodge at stanford.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I taught my first instructor training – live at Stanford with Karen Word –
> during the last two days.
>
>
>
> I would like to get some clarification about the Checkout requirement to
> participate in a discussion section.
>
>
>
> My understanding is that this is separate from doing the live demo, even
> though now these are wrapped up into the same phone calls. So, they need to
> attend twice. I’m pretty sure I have that piece correct.
>
>
>
> I also understood this to be more of a “join the call and ask a question
> or two and/or participate in the discussion that is going on” kind of
> thing. But the detailed checkout notes (https://carpentries.github.
> io/instructor-training/checkout/ ) indicate they should be doing a lot of
> preparation (almost like preparing to present for several minutes, or be
> quizzed), which is somewhat confusing here. Which of these is the case?
>
> Also, there are no slots to sign up for a call to fulfill this particular
> requirement. If they are expected only to participate in the discussion and
> not “claim time” on the agenda, as such, can they just call in to whatever
> is most convenient? Do they **have** to contact the host in advance to
> make sure it’s okay? If they need to “claim time” on the agenda, it’s seems
> appropriate to add in slots for that.
>
>
>
> I did not have clear answers to these questions, and I would like to be
> able to clarify this via email for this group of learners.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> ~ Amy
>
>
>
> Amy E. Hodge, PhD
> *Science Data Librarian*
>
> amyhodge at stanford.edu
>
> 650.556.5194 <(650)%20556-5194>
>
>  orcid.org/0000-0002-5902-3077
>
>
>
> Data Management Services
> Branner Earth Sciences Library, 212 Mitchell
> 397 Panama Mall
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> Stanford University
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